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shartypants

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skate excellence Level 1 skills
« on: January 19, 2025, 10:18:43 am »
Hi guys, I just started skate excellence Level 1 and had my second 30 minute session today. I am an absolute beginner who can barely move on the ice, but the coach had us try jumping on two feet. I ended up slamming my coccyx into the ice and now I can barely move. I missed the rest of the lesson and will not be able to do the next one either due to the injury. Is this a normal thing for them to teach beginners in their second lesson? It doesn't feel right. My tailbone is very injured because of this. Thank you for any advice

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Re: skate excellence Level 1 skills
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2025, 11:27:53 am »
Sorry to hear that.  I am afraid it has been 20 years since we did learn to skate so I really can't remember at what point if any this was introduced.  Figure skating doesn't really and any two footed jumps in it, though it is probably not a bad exercise IF THE PERSON IS READY.  It may be that most of your class are kids (I assume you're an adult) and kids being made of rubber it is possibly appropriate for them.  It doesn't sound appropriate for adults, at least not for all.  Better to start with a jumping preparation without taking off to get use to the knee bend and push, but start off slow and gradually increase the force and range of motion.  One of the things you learn when learning to skate is what your limits are.  You need to gently push past your comfort zone but unless you are happy falling often and have strong bones then if your body is refusing to do something then there's a reason and your teacher needs to find am easier progression for you.  Even now in group lessons I find myself drifting off after one or two skills and just working on those for the rest of the lesson.  There are of course 1-1s which are obviously more expensive, but can be combined with group lessons, but I think it's reasonable to say to the teacher "sorry I don't feel ready to do exactly this, yet, can you suggest something that moves my skills along in this direction that feels less uncomfortable".

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Re: skate excellence Level 1 skills
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2025, 01:18:23 pm »
Doesn't sound right at all.

'Skate Excellence' is a relatively new syllabus, which was invented when the group of Planet Ice, and NISA/BIS had a 'parting of ways'. It's quite probably there is room for improvement.

My philosophy of learning is that you should progressively build on what you can currently do.

A skating coach is responsible for their students, and regardless of what the level states, they should exercise judgement as to whether someone is ready to tackle a move.

Ice skating is an inherently dangerous sport; there is protective clothing that may help.

Take some time to heal up, and perhaps try a find a quiet public session to pootle around and see if you're ready to get back to the lessons; try and have a quick chat with the coach beforehand.
The greatest trick figure skaters ever pulled, was convincing the world it was easy.

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Re: skate excellence Level 1 skills
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2025, 02:41:02 pm »
Wise words as ever from black.


Skating has been immensely rewarding for me despite me being a pretty slow learner - it’s worth sticking with it, enjoying the process and being patient.


My recollection of Skate Excellence was that it was invented primarily to support the launch of “Off Ice Skating” and the collaboration with PI came later. The lady who developed it did I think sincerely feel that the NISA as-was learn to skate program could be substantially improved upon. I was around at the time as she coached my kids for a while.  Whether or not it’s an improvement I am not sure - probably both systems have their advantages and I think who is teaching it is at least as important as the system used.



 

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