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23inmyhead

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Problem with new boots.
« on: September 08, 2015, 09:31:37 pm »
I haven't been on here for quite a while but I'm hoping some of you may have suggestions to help with the problem I have with my new boots. For the last few years I've been wearing Jackson Mystiques but they were fitted badly when I bought them and seemed to get bigger over time until I was wearing about 3 pairs of socks and had them so tight I was cutting off the circulation to my feet. I decided it was time for some new skates. After trying on loads of different ones I settled on a pair of Edea Overtures. I've skated in them 4 times since buying them and it's been awful.
The main problem  is that I have pronation in both feet, especially the right (my feet roll over onto the inside edge). I'd forgotten that my old coach had suggested I had the blades moved a bit more to the inside to compensate for the pronation, which I did and it had helped a lot. On the new boots there is no room at all to move the blades. Does anyone know if it's possible to have orthotic insoles made that would help to stop the pronation? 
Although I can now do all my forwards skating moves ok more or less, although outside edges are very scarey, I am totally stuffed when it comes to skating backwards. I can barely skate backwards at all any more never mind do a backwards crossover or work on my backwards edges - even having my coach in a death grip I can't find an outside edge backwards. I'm so far on my inside edge that moving to an outside edge is really scarey as it feels like I have to move my foot so far.
I don't know whether to sell the Edeas and go back to a Jackson in the right size and move the blades or whether to try to stick it out and learn to skate on them. Anyone else experienced anything like this? I really don't know what to do for the best.

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2015, 04:20:53 pm »
I'm sure you can get orthotic insoles to stop the pronation, but have you got room in your boots to put them in? Most people using orthotics get them before the skates to make sure they will fit inside. You can get them off the shelf, or custom made. Alternatively you could see if a boot tech could shim the blade to correct the angle.
Have you thought of trying to fix your feet?  ( Pronation causes other foot problems.) I cured my tendancy to walk with my feet sticking out just by regularly correcting them, when I was well into adulthood. A quick google for physiotherapy exercises for pronation had a lot of results.This one
http://www.thesportsphysiotherapist.com/intrinsic-foot-muscle-strengthening-a-comparison-of-short-foot-and-toe-curl-exercises/

says "The effect of strengthening these intrinsic foot muscles has solid theoretical applications however the efficacy of this for injury prevention or management has not been scientifically examined."

But still worth trying, I would have thought.

If you havent had Jacksons in the correct size, how sure are you that the boot shape suits you? You may just need a boot that fits which allows for the blades to be moved.
How did you manage to move the blades on pvc soles?

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2015, 04:45:08 pm »
Good point about fitting orthotics into these boots - thinking about it they aren't going to fit.
I think it's too late to correct the pronation (it's been there 50+ years!).
I was able to move the blades by drilling new screw holes and it worked perfectly but there was quite a lot of room either side of the base plate of the blade on the boot to be able to move them. There is no room at all on the Edea's.
I'm thinking now that I am going to have to sell the Edeas and maybe take a trip to a really experienced skate fitter like Everglides where I can talk to them about the problem.


Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2015, 05:16:50 pm »
If you make the trip to Everglides, take your Edeas with you.  You never know, they may be able to do something.
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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2015, 05:34:44 pm »
I would second taking the Edeas with you, if the actual boot fits your feet. Everglides may well be able to shim the blade and alter the angle of the blade. It's just physics, after all.
Or you could try playing about with insoles to see if you can correct the pronation eg by cutting away the outside edge of your insole, or building up the inside, or both. Taking away insole would give more room inside the boot, and allow building up. It's a relatively cheap and quick experiment
I was in my late 30's when I corrected my feet.
Did you drill the pvc yourself? And did it last? i ask because a lot of people say you cant change the blades on pvc, and I have pvc soles. I suppose all your new holes were well away from the original holes?

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2015, 07:22:43 pm »
My husband made the new holes just by screwing in the screws. I thought he'd drilled them but he says not.  They are a decent distance away from the original holes and the blades are rock solid and have been for a couple of years.


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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2015, 08:08:22 pm »
Thanks. Do let us know what you decide to do, and how it works out. I reckon you could significantly alter the  reach for the outside edge with a couple of mm  relative raise to the inside of your foot.

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 07:50:49 pm »
i have these http://www.superfeet.com/en-us/blue, as recommended by Les Westaway when buying new boots from him. I like them and put them in my inlines as well.
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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 11:33:54 am »
Thanks for the suggestion but after talking with a skate fitter and my coach it looks like the only thing that is going to work for me is moving the blade across. As there is no room on the sole of the Edea boots I bought I think I have no choice but to sell them and hopefully get a pair of Jacksons in the right size where I will have slightly more ankle support and room to move the blade. It's all rather disappointing but not the end of the world.

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2015, 02:19:47 am »
I think I may have the same problem as you, I can do outside edge on one foot but struggle so much on the other because even the tiniest movement feels like a massive lean. I also struggled more forward on this foot outside edge (although not as much as backward)


Can I ask, when you moved the blade across, do you move the front and back of the plate equally or one end more than the other? I may get hubby to try this for my Left boot.


It's disheartening when you can't get used to the boot isn't it.  Hope you get It sorted soon x

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Re: Problem with new boots.
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2015, 02:52:54 pm »
Florence, I moved both ends of the blade but the front more than the back. The front has been moved across by about 0.75cm, the back is much less. Do you know if you pronate on your left foot? You can often tell by looking at the wear on the underneath of your regular shoes. If you have a coach it would be a good idea to ask his/her advice about how far to move the blade before attempting it yourself.
It made a huge difference to me and now that I have given up on my new skates and are back in my old ones I can really appreciate the difference.



 

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