Author Topic: Are the days of the plaster cast numbered? Skating related.  (Read 1699 times)

caffn8me

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Yes, this really does have skating relevance :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14160956

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Re: Are the days of the plaster cast numbered? Skating related.
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2011, 12:43:28 PM »
Ooh, this sounds interesting. "not available on the NHS" though but I guess maybe someday in the future this will be the norm, and plaster casts will be no more  O0
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Re: Are the days of the plaster cast numbered? Skating related.
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2011, 01:39:55 PM »
This technique will only be able to fix joint ligament and tendon injuries so there will still be plaster casts for fractures.  It does look to be a great advance though :)

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Re: Are the days of the plaster cast numbered? Skating related.
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 01:52:22 PM »
right i posted an essay and my session timed out..great.
Anyways.. in a branch of tradition chinese medicine (TCM) which treats broken bones, joint injuries etc. plaster casts are considered crude and ineffective. The practice is called tie da, and is practiced by specialists (ie not your standard chinese doctor) who spend around a decade of learning (they're not allowed to touch a patient during that time). Results are obvious so you'd expect tie da to have spread to the west, like TCM, but because it is so difficult to master, and the tradition of keeping it secretive ie within the family/ martial arts group (the pracitce originates from kung fu groups, they had some one to treat injuries, and the practice is passed on to the most loyal students), there are only a few proper practitioners in china, and none in this country. A bad practitioner often makes things worse- results from these practioners are also obviously terrible.
In hong kong, i sprained, wait for it, a finger while skating. Mum made me go to the tie da clinic in hong kong. Its owned by a very respected tie da master, Leung Wah (his oils and ointments are exported around the world), although mainly run by his sons now (leung wah is 80 odd).
Many years ago my granddad went to this guy after a car crash. With a dislocated neck, the surgeon in hospital said that he would operate on the spine, then drill two holes in my granddad's head to mount a frame to keep the head in place. This would leave a very stiff neck. The surgeon left, and the nurse secretly told granddad plus family to leave and go to a tie da master, probably because she has seen the outcome of these operations before. They went to Leung Wah, paid 5000 hong kong dollars (alot even now), and after drinking a herbal decoction (acted as a local anaesthetic) and alot of head twisting/ pulling/pushing by leung wah and his son, the dislocation was fixed (apparently alot of bone crunching was heard, ew). Ten days in a soft neck collar and what would have required months/years of treatment in western medicine, was achieved. Granddad was back on his feet, out and about. Surgery usually includes fusing the bones together to prevent further damage and a long time in a neck collar. By the way, my granddad said it was completely painless...whatever he drank must be magic, cos i'm guessing a dislocated neck is painful without someone moving your head around!
In my opinion, western medicine sometimes makes things seem really complicated and sciency, when it is actually very crude, and much more 'simpler' treatment is better. Simpler in quotation marks because tie da actually takes alot of skill and only a few can master it, but the principles are much simpler. So skillful, when i went to the clinic, leung wah's son immediately asked, what did you rub on it - aunt said 'your dad's ointment', which i had. Then he said, 'yeah, and what else'. I was like, fine i rubbed ibuprofen gel. I knew he wouldn't approve of it..after all it did nothing to reduce swelling.
Western medicine and chinese medicine are both advanced but along different paths, if they united but stuck to their own principles, then i reckon we'd have a super medicinal practice :D I know that the scientific technology has helped  western medicine along alot, but lets not forget that it is actually very new, and thus hit and miss, and some areas are very crude (ie the plaster cast!), whereas chinese medicine has already gone through that trial and error thousands of years ago. However without the technolgy, chinese medicine hasn't discovered some of the things that western medicine has, hence the big difference in principles. If you've read this far, i hope you had an interesting read! :D
http://www.hungkuen.net/tcm-ditda.htm    this site has an article on tie da, but i've not found much else unfortunately
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Re: Are the days of the plaster cast numbered? Skating related.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 09:44:35 PM »
i agree, western medicine is often plain stupid. will have a look at the link, thank you.
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