Gosh, thanks for bringing me down. 

Certainly not my intention to bring anyone down - I was just responding to an earlier post and expressing my personal view.  I would urge everyone to look into the matter for themselves and not take my word for it - or anyone else's.  It's your body.

I'd be cautious about taking any vaccine.  They usually take years to be tested thoroughly, and I don't see how that process can be accelerated as it's about monitoring how people react to it over an extended period, not just a couple of months.


The Pfizer vaccine was due to finish trials in 2021 - only Stage 1 has been completed, and there were due to be two more stages.  If it is released now, the Stage 2 and 3 trials will be conducted on the general population.


The Pfizer vaccine has a completely novel delivery mechanism, and has only been tested on healthy people who in general are at very low risk anyway, and there has been no measurement of whether the vaccine makes people less infectious, only on whether it mitigates symptoms.


There are people such as myself who have health issues in their history which mean a vaccine will not be appropriate, and I am likely to be excluded from a lot normal life because activities and travel will require a vaccine certificate.  Ticketmaster and the Premier League are already discussing this. 


We'll have masks and social distancing and prebooking only and the rule of six for many many years to come so I am not convinced ice rinks will be economically sustainable.

I'm absolutely with them on that.  It would be madness to open.  The costs of running that facility are massive and they would sustain huge losses.  Sad but we really have to hope that one or more of the vaccines prove effective and make the sport that we love an option again.

Regarding insurance for businesses (like ice rinks) there is a legal case of note:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-insurers-court/uk-businesses-not-covered-for-pandemic-insurers-tell-supreme-court-idUKKBN27W1XL
https://www.fca.org.uk/publication/corporate/bi-insurance-test-case-qbe-appeal-written-case.pdf

At the moment it looks like the insurance cover is for losses within a 25 mile radius of the business premises, not nationally.
It's in progress however.

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20 Scottish Ice Rinks - quickly checked 11th November 2020
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There are 32 subdivisions in Scotland; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdivisions_of_Scotland
Each is set a level; https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-protection-levels/
Reviewed weekly.

0 = All organised sports and exercise activities for all age groups are permitted..
1 = Indoor group exercise classes and non-contact sports are permitted..
2 = Organised exercise (such as exercise classes and non-contact sports) are permitted indoors..
3 = Exercise is permitted indoors .. No group exercise classes or sports (contact or non-contact) are permitted indoors.
4 = Indoor sports facilities are closed.

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Aberdeen - Aberdeen City - Linx Ice Arena - Level 2
Reopened 7th November 2020 - https://www.sportaberdeen.co.uk/covid-19-information/welcome-back-to-ice/

Ayr - South Ayrshire - Ayr Ice Rink - Level 3
Unsure; closed? - http://www.afsc.org.uk   https://www.ayrcurlingclub.co.uk/news/season-2020-21/statement-from-ayr-cc-board/

Coatbridge - North Lanarkshire - The Time Capsule - Level 3
Closed - https://www.nlleisure.co.uk/time-capsule/ice-opening-costs

Dumfies - Dumfries and Galloway - Dumfries Ice Bowl - Level 2
Closed for 2020? - https://supportdg.dumgal.gov.uk/article/21603/Dumfries-Ice-Bowl-COVID-19-Update

Dundee - Dundee City - Dundee Ice Arena - Level 3
Open? - https://dundeeicearena.co.uk/

Edinburgh - Edinburgh (City of) - Murrayfield Ice Rink - Level 3
Closed - https://www.murrayfieldicerinkltd.co.uk/latest-news

Elgin - Moray - Moray Leisure Centre - Level 1
Closed; reopen 4th January 2021 - https://www.mlc-elgin.co.uk/ice_rink/

Forfar - Angus - Forfar Indoor Sports - Level 2; Moving to Level 3 from 6am on Friday 13 November.
Open - https://fis.scot/

Glasgow - Renfrewshire (just on the Glasgow City border) - Braehead Arena - Level 3
Closed - till March 2021 - https://www.braehead-arena.co.uk/the-ice-arena/public-skating

Glasgow - South Lanarkshire (just on the Glasgow City border) - East Kilbride Ice Rink - Level 3
Open? - https://www.slleisureandculture.co.uk/news/article/3556/east_kilbride_ice_rink_reopening_for_patch_ice_sessions

Greenock - Inverclyde - Waterfront Leisure Complex - Level 3
Closed - https://www.inverclydeleisure.com/ice-rink/

Hamilton - South Lanarkshire - Lanarkshire Ice Rink - Level 3
Closed - http://lanarkshireicerink.blogspot.com/

Inverness - Highland - Inverness Ice Centre - Level 1
Open - https://inverness-ice-centre.co.uk/2020/09/11/chairman-reopening-statement/

Kelso - Scottish Borders - Border Ice Rink - Level 2
Closed - reopen 4th January 2021 - https://www.bordericerink.co.uk/

Kilmarnock - East Ayrshire - Galleon Leisure Centre - Level 3
Open? - https://www.galleoncentre.com/activities/ice-rink

Kirkcaldy - Fife - Fife Ice Arena - Level 2; Moving to Level 3 from 6am on Friday 13 November.
Open - https://www.facebook.com/FifeIceArena/   https://fifeicearena.setmore.com/bookclass

Lockerbie - Dumfries and Galloway - Lockerbie Ice Rink - Level 2
Closed - http://lockerbieicerink.co.uk/

Perth - Perth and Kinross - Dewars Centre - Level 2; Moving to Level 3 from 6am on Friday 13 November.
Closing 13th November 2020 - https://www.liveactive.co.uk/Venues/dewars-centre

Stevenston - North Ayrshire - Auchenharvie Leisure Centre - Level 3
Closed - reopen January 2021 - https://kaleisure.com/location/auchenharvie-leisure-centre/
https://www.ardrossanherald.com/news/18591750.petition-launched-save-harvies-ice-rink-north-ayrshire-passes-1-000-signatures/

Stirling - Stirling - The Peak - Level 3
Open - http://www.activestirling.org.uk/activities/ice-rink/
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